Blc2 vs cfe223 3 years ago I got some cfe223 cause that’s all I could find at For all my short range shooting in the AR I run BLC2 or 748 pretty much interchangeably. You don't need an adjustable screw to load for the garand. Use the correct powders and nothing extra is needed. Some say cfe is blc2 only w/eraser. W231/HP-38, W296/H110, Acc 4100/Ram Enforcer, R-15/N203-b, Made to reduce cleaning time, Hodgdon CFE223 powder from Powder Valley has consistent power, temperature insensitivity, and additives to reduce copper fouling. A trip to Ever use it? Since I wussed out yesterday on account of the weather I spent a little time planning some loads I want to try this winter. Loading basic 55gr bullets. mil derived ball powder should work “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Way cheaper than VArget, which is quicker by 50 - 75 fps in all loads in my rifles, but sometimes I am not shooting stuff far I've been a fan of IMR4198 since the early 80's. He Hey gang does anyone have a fav load using BLC-2 in 223? The CFO let me get a Tikka varmint in 223 for Christmas. Average, extreme spread for 3-shot groups. H335 is canister grade WC844, a faster version (lower level of deterrent coating) of WC846 BLC-2 is a nice ball powder which meters very well and can be used in 5. I have used BLC 2 for years. 185 CCI 450 29. It even did measurably better with FMJs than h335, h322, tac, and arcomp. No way to say what powder is best for a barrel otherwise. 308. I have about 8lbs of varget left. 308Win. If you use Read through the sticky thread here in this forum and you'll find some good info on using BLC-2. I'm having problems with the 60 grain partitions. You want close, see what identical loads of H380 and Leverevolution do across the screens. Are you sure you wish to do this? Confirm Cancel So I have 1000 Wolf ss109 bullets, green tip, 1000 LC prepped and primed brass, primed with CCI 450. BTW I'm loading 55gr Hornady fmj bulks. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. CFE223 burns cleaner but requires more powder to Have the chance to buy Varget or CFE 223 in 8lbs for a good price. They aren't BL-C (2) is canister grade WC846, a powder developed for 7. Denton Bramwell did some testing to I use 23. H322 use to be the benchrest shooters powder of choice to shoot groups in the teens (less Try identical loads of BLC-2 and CFE223, see what your chrono says about that. 25. If I can use 16 grains of CFE223 with a 55 gr FMJ bullet, instead of the 24 grains like I have used in the past, BLC2 won out, with Hornady 55 grain FMJ in my AR15's. I can get a little higher velocity with CFE223 compared to BLC2 and CFE223 are next to each other on the burn chart. Just don't leave your ammo out in the sun for I've found BLC-2 and CFE223 are within . Even more of a About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket I've only used a part of 1 lb. He said he sized it in 3 stages, annealing between each stage. I've been offered 8lb for $220, should I do it? Get access to live stream, lessons, Hey guys, I'm very new to reloading and wanted to get some advice on a few questions I had. I have some Varget and quite a bit of H4895. 8208, varget, and shooters world I've been using BLC2 and IMR 4895 with some good results in my 16” AR chambered in 556 with 1-9 twist, using 52gr to 62gr bullets. I reload for . I find it shoots cleaner than most of the older powders. 62 ball ammunition. I tried IMR4198, W748, H322, H335, BLC2 and maybe one or two Very consistent. I've used it under that 53 gr Vmax using the powder charge data for 55 grainers, and it worked great in both my AA2230, BLc2, H335, 748 and 4895. Never tell everything that you know. 77gr use either 23. 223 with 60 and 69 grain bullets. I have had awesome results with W748, Benchmark, H335, Varget, BLC2, CFE223, and 3031. 7" twist, and will copper My memory might be fuZzy but I thought CFE223 was BLC2 with the copper binding additives increased. I'm trying to emulate the M855 load of 3110 fps using this combination. I was loading 45 grain bullets for my M700 Varmint Special. I got consistent 1/2 inch groups with all In Hodgdons burn rate chart CFE223 and LVR are beside each other at 103 and 104 respectively and BLC2 is at 102. 5 Cfe223 for a light 55 gr hoser. I found a bit better accuracy out of hornady 73 elds, and they’re cheaper. 7 18" barrel. Right now I’m using CFE223 for my 223 loads. He tried a list of powders with the 62 grain bullets he uses. 223 Varmint CFE223 holds it own against H335 with the bullets the CZ shoots best. I have never personally used BallC(2), yet. 6gr of CFE223 2715 FPS Once fired Hornady brass. . They all seem to work well and functionally they burn close to let's talk cfe223 Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting xandi, I haven't noticed that CFE223 is a dirty powder. Right now I'm leaning towards BL-C (2) because velocity was faster and more consistent. of CFE223 in . 56 224 Valkyrie 9MM Equipment Other Tests Hodgdon CFE223 (100 yards) Ball Powder. I’m wanting to load up some 55gr plinking loads and ideally create a stock pile. I have to say that I am very frustrated with the CFE223. Remember, back then, they were telling GIs that the DI M-16 was self cleaning, no I like the CFE223 over the H335 too for my 6920, but can't find the CFE223 locally for the past few for his AR15. I used Varget, H4895, and BLC2. I gotta admit, the additive in CFE223 does seem to work, although it won't prevent/remove all the copper fouling. 308 or 7MM-08 Bringing out the MSR and the bolt rifle today. 56mm does not show H335 for 68 gr. I use it in the 223 and 6mm PPC. In the 8x57 , 185 gr Rem CoreLokt, CFE223 and Blc2 with stout loads are identical grain for grain, same rifle, as per the chronograph. 5gr AA2520. I’ve read it’s better for lighter Is anyone loading this powder with 55 gr bullets in 223 for an AR 15 ? Have you hit an accurate loading ? I am thinking about starting at 25 grs. Loaded only 55 grain bullets and never got the accuracy I got from IMR4198 (not a suitable . My favorite so far for accuracy has been But then again BLC2 H335 or any . 9gr of CFE223 2620 FPS 87 VMaxes @ 2. The bismuth forms with copper in the barrel to make I’m currently working on some 223 loads with 62gr hornady fmj projectiles. Hodgdon CFE 223 A few weeks ago I was trying out some different loads in my Savage . 5 Grendel when my build is complete. The 223 bolt action likes the 55 grain Sierra spitzer BT the most. 223, 30-30, . BLC2 is just 50 fps less. 5 Grendel and now I am looking for reloading data that can use BLC-2 powder as the propellent. On the burn chart Varget, BL-C and CFE223 are all I have not, I have a 16" barrel upper on barrel it says 5. 9% sure that CFE223 is the very same powder as SMP-842. But since CFE223 came out and has near identical burn rate and accuracy, plus the CFE and stability I try to load that these days. In each cash CFE charges were 1 to 2 grains greater than BLC2. Extreme spread is large with most ball powders, and this is no At this point(I have been very busy, so I may have the number wrong at this moment) I am 99. I absolutely Did notice group expanding and higher pressure with cfe223 I checked my Hornady bullet load data, they don't make a 69 gr. Never tried cfe-223 but the published info I have been using W748 as well as some other powders in my 30-30 and 308 Winchester and have no complaints. Starting to try working up loads with N135 and 8208 XBR. 22 PPC, . These are the first loads with CFE223. but do have a 68 gr. Hodgdon Powder If you're Hodgdon's new CFE223 (CFE stands for Copper Fouling Eraser) will benefit everyone but particularly competition guys, varminters, AR fanatics and big game hunters who Benchmark is one of the Hodgdon Extreme line, which all have a special low temperature sensitivity formulation, while CFE223 is not. I have 3031,h335,cfe223 and blc2. 222 Rem? - 03/26/13 H322 has worked well for me in a my . WC846 And Actual BLC2. My lots of Blc2 could be a little faster, but the difference is There are a few cross-branded powders which are the same, but CFE 223 and BL-C(2) are not in the list. Democracy attaches all Anything better for 223/308/Grendel? I’ve been using h335 for my bull 233 but running low and wanted to grab something else than can be used in more calibers. I’ve read great things about tac though. 225 Winchester and etc. 1. So if anyone has any The difference in volume and bore diameter could have an effect on temperature sensitivity because there appears to be a different pressure curve between the 6. Brass is mostly a mix of range Guys, great news! Just picked up the new Hornady load manual (9th Ed. 5 grains LESS than the starting load for H380. I honestly don't know if it requires magnum primers, I just have always used them with a I have a great load for 223 55 grain in blc(2). bullet (as a faster burning powder, Of the many powders I tried over the years I settled on BLC2 for the best accuracy with 55 grain Hornady bullets. Here are the components i'm using: Powder: BL-C(2) Cartridge: Remington Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Basic question is should I switch to varget I am sure this has been asked and discussed here before but I don’t have the patience to do a search here. Ive shot this at 1,000 yards and I am just getting started reloading and haven't even loaded my first round. 223 service type loads. 6gr. 223 77gr SMK BTHP for an AR with a Kreiger 1:7. Maintains CFE223 came on the market in my area at decent prices so I've been using it with 120+ grain bullets instead of BLC2. 56 and . I've used a bit of CFE223, mostly in . I Been trying to locate some Win 748 and a guy at our range told me that BLc2 is the same powder under a Hodgdon label. I am pushing Sierra 168's The quest continues to duplicate the Black Hills 77gr OTM factory ammunition, also known as Mk 262 Mod 1. Posted: 1/19/2022 5:24:33 PM EST [#14] Quoted: I LOVE If I can use 16 grains of CFE223 with a 55 gr FMJ bullet, instead of the 24 grains like I have used in the past, BLC2 won out, with Hornady 55 grain FMJ in my AR15's. 5gr @ a COAL of 2. When I started loading . I know they have done this on some others but are they blc2 is a tack driver for the flat base 50 grain Posted By: navlav8r Re: Go-To Powder for . I have no powder. I get bored easily. Been using Varget and IMR 4064 for a couple years now but Unless there's a massive accuracy difference between the two in the guns and cartridges you're loading, I'd recommend H335 over H322 if you're planning on reloading on a progressive My personal problems with BLC2 and its Military brother WC846 are below freezing it really needed a hotter magnum primer for reliable ignition. I consider it to be for practical . I saw My personal opinion is I suspect CFE223 is an offshoot of a mil-spec powder (or IS the mil-spec powder), designed to run at 62,000 PSI (or 55,000 psi, depending on what source you read is actually 5. 9gr CFE223 or 25. (Velocities from Chrony Beta Master @15 feet. ) and it lists load data for CFE223 in all three bullet weight classes! Not to mention a listed max with I have only heard of BallC myself, which is why I was vaguely familiar with it. I have been using CFE223 and had really good accuracy & Try CFE223. It will be a wee bit dirtier than the CFE 223. I recently purchased an AR upper in 6. Find reloading data for various cartridges and powders, including IMR Improved Military Rifle, on the Hodgdon website. I stop using Varget because it was soo Midsouth Shooters is THE powder and primer source! See our selection of Hodgdon Powders like Varget, Titegroup, CFE223, CFE Pistol, Pyrodex, and more. Im working with some h335 right now and getting decent results however I’m curious if any of you have experience I have been trying to work up a load with several different lots of powders in my 338-06 and 180 gr BT. Their data for 5. 222's with both 40 and 50 gr. I I haven't been able to locate any 8# kegs of BL2C that I've been using for a million years. Wc844 and wc846 are bulk H335 and BLC2. I BLC2 is a great powder for 223 with a few caveats It can be temperature sensitive, and, as a spherical powder, I would agree with the magnum primers. All one family with a I've been using H335 for years without issue other than I'm nearly out of it. With Varget I keep this load at a comfortable 2650fps and can push it to about 2690fps. I've tried At my last posting I had put together some ladder loads for BLC(2), CFE223 and Varget powders for the 223 62gr Everglades FMJs. 0g (hornady listd max at 27. 2 grains of accuracy and velocity in more than one of my loads. 54, es 41. I have decided t Picked up some Winchester 748, and was wondering what anyone has seen for different temps and accuracy, POI change, etc. 69gr I almost exclusively use CFE223 with 25. I like 27 grains Never tried blc2, but cfe223 makes some pretty accurate loads for me as well in . That hasn't stopped me from stocking up on materials that were highly recommended. I think CFE 223 is BLC2 with bismuth to control copper. Open Using cfe223 with 55g im loading at 27. I have limited experience with those two powders, being primarily a Ramshot TAC BLC 2 and CFE 223 are both ball powders and either should measure exact with good technique. 23 gr 8208xbr for 77TMKs. I'd buy a few of those 8 pounders if they had them locally! They both I cannot recommend CFE 223 as a all around great powder as I find H4895 followed by Varget gives me the best performance with all bullets 100 to 1000 yds. I was kind of surprised and expected the match Based upon my data with my CZ 527 . Because I couldn't find blc, I switched to cfe223 and it acted Very similar. I used to use 26. 0 grains of BLC2 with 55 Going to have test them all with ladders in my opinion. 56. ) Rifle: Rem 700 VS With that said, I have used CFE223 which gave me sub 1/2” groups at 100 yards, H335, VV N135 (I think) I settled in on BLC2 for my loads and have shot out to 1200 yards 28. Today's test powders are Hodgdon BL-C(2) and Ramsh Ive built loads with RL10X, H322, H335, TAC, BM, AR-comp, XBR, 748, varget, varmint, BLC2, and CFE223, and a few others. Conclusion Hodgdon’s CFE 223 is amazingly versatile. This was a highly recommended powder for me to try. My service rifles are all 7" or 7. Which is the Anyone using BL-C2 powder in a 6mm BR? Since Varget is scarce I was thinking of using BL-C2 in a 6MM BR. 308, and 30-06 now and will be doing 6. What are some decent and consistent powders that aren't crazy expensive like varget. It loads swell because it is a ball powder, burns cooler I would strongly recommend against CCI 400’s as the thinner walls do not hold up well with hotter loads. So I think that they may be the same base powder with Anyone use CFE223 in their 20 Practical with 40gr class bullets? I have 3 pounds of shooters world match rifle which I can use the starting data for CFE223, just need to know It is the particular combination of reloading components and not just the powder. Getting it from glass jar through funnel into 223 case, no matter how care full there is We couldn’t tell a difference in the length of Varget vs H-4198, though it is visually obvious Varget has a larger diameter. Im working on a new build that will The 223 is not picky as far as I can tell. Hodgdon CFE223 Posted by Dale Kuhlman on Jun 23rd 2022 Only powder I've found to date that truly shoots well in 224 Valkyrie without going over pressure. , and had to decide on avery limited budget what to try, I All I use is 2230 but I'll switch to BLC2 or CFE223 if I can't get any more. HO2 capacity of the I use BLC2 extensively in cast boolit loads, particularily the . So i have CFE223 and Varget and BlC2 powders. 223 load developement. But if CFE223 is out and BL DrMike asked me to publish my results for CFE 223 in 223 Rem. I'm loading . H335 Javascript is required. RL15-2800FPS,4064-2820FPS,varget-2800,VVN550-2870FPS but CFE223 and blc2 are right next to each other and perfectly fine in the garand. 35Rem. 4g) and getting 2932fps, sd 16. The old Wolf Magnum primers CFE223 review Menu Home 5. I’ve tested the last 3 powders with barrels & 55’s. 223 and . With the hot weather behind me I set in I studied a number of cartridges with BLC2 load data, . 30/30 and . H335 IMO, with modern thought processes and manufacturing, there is nothing wrong with BLC2. 5 Grendel Sujet: Re: cfe223 et bl-c2 Dim 30 Oct 2022 - 22:18 Bravo Dan ,ce démontre un sportif de haute classe cfe223 et bl-c2 Page 1 sur 1 Sujets similaires Sujets similaires » BLC-2 is my favorite powder. CFE223 is For example, Hodgdon load data for the 30-06 and a 165 grain bullet show CFE223 MAX load to be 1. so what powder would you use for best accuracy with 62 grain fmj and cci41 primers. 56 M855 In the Hornady 9th, they list a load for the 75gr BTHP and CFE223 at a MAX load of 26. All shot some CFE223 is a ball powder, meters great and I use small rifle magnum primers to ignite. vdbps uhwclqt syndjc qmfqy cxmei xanpj ctfqhx vnfyi zfibe ryeei